Episode 6: Antifragile

Well, dude, got a new car. New car, yeah. A little podcast, episode six. Six weeks in. Let's go. Six weeks in, we're refining. We're refining, and we're kind of deciding that we don't wanna refine, but it changes every week, so maybe next week we'll have a video. Yeah, maybe next week we'll have a scroll that we just live by. Dragon Warrior scroll. We're reading off of a prompt. Yeah, we're like, "Show me." I'm standing here, I'm in the background throwing a card. We've got a teleprompter, like this screen thing. Can you imagine? Nimbus, come get in the pod, bud. We're on the pulpit. Come here. Dude, middle of the meeting today, I'm in this meeting today, and this guy takes the biggest bathroom break ever. Stinky? So stinky, and I'm just gagging. Good boy. Yeah, he's a good boy. You gotta remind Mason sometimes. Who's the real boss, or what? Yeah. Say, "You take care of me." You're still a little guy. I love this little dude. He is an awesome dude. Don't you like him, too? Yeah. Dude, totally changed my perspective on cats, getting one. He's awesome. Everybody that has a cat loves their cat. Yeah. I don't know anybody that has a... Honestly, for pretty much all pets. How could you not love this guy? Look at him. Yeah. You are kind of a stinky boy, though. I feel like there's something to do with, like, taking care of something else that you just, like, instinctively, you, like, force yourself to like it. Yeah. Because- They depend on you. Yeah. I bet. Why wouldn't you wanna like it? You have to take care of him either way. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, he's a man, though. And he's awesome. Yeah. There's not a single dislikable thing about him. Yeah. Zuma's been sleeping in my arms, like, head up. Yeah. Me too. She is a cuddler. And then Jade sleeps right here. It's so fun. That's so cute. She is such a cuddler. She is. And the thing that I love about her is she's very similar to him in, like, however you put her, she'll just stay. Yeah. It's like, okay. Doesn't move. Doesn't move. Same with him. Look at him. Yeah, you're relaxed, huh? You guys just hang. Big time chillers. Well, yeah. What? Tell me about your- Catch me up ... new car. What's, uh... Yeah, I got rid of the Honda Biggest change from last week, from last week to this week Definitely car. Selling a car, getting a car. Just realized I needed a truck. You did that so fast. Yeah. Yeah. I like to move fast. You do. You get stuff done quick. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah, why wait, dude? When you want something, go after it. Yeah. You get it. Dude, I've been thinking this week a lot about money- Yeah ... and my relationship with money, because I've always heard the term, like, if you secretly despise it, you won't seek it. Hmm. And I'm really wondering if there's any part of me that secretly despises it, because I know what it takes to make money. Yeah. You know? Like, you have to commit to it. Yeah. Like, you have to sell. You have to learn how to sell. Yeah. And I don't know if I've ever learned how to sell. I don't know if I ever learned how to sell. But I want to learn. Yeah. And I'm to the point now where I'm like, I do care. Yeah. I wanna figure it out. I wanna figure this thing out so I don't have to think about it all the time. Yeah. You know? I feel like a great salesman can sell anything, but also you can be a great salesman if you really believe in the product. I feel like you don't... Like, a great salesman can sell across all different verticals, but, like, you being a salesman for your specific niche, you can still be a great salesman within your own niche. Mm-hmm. Like, I don't know if I could go and sell wood blocks. Right. But I feel like for Third Life, I can, like... Yeah. Or at least I'm learning how to really sell that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. No, that's a good point. Making it attractive. It's so crazy how, how pretty much all the studies that at all give insight into human behavior are marketing studies, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, a lot of the studies that are done are done by- are funded by these big companies to figure out how they can sell more. Interesting. Because once you know how people work and operate- Re- is that real? I think so. Most- Wow. I, I mean, I totally believe it- A ton. I- ... it's just kind of shocking- Yeah ... to hear that I think that's just because it's, like, a proper incentive structure. They've aligned- Yeah ... the incentives to, like, yeah, we want to do this research, and there's a PhD student that wants to do this research because they love it, and so we'll give them the money to do this research. Right. Which I think is... I think that's a good incentive structure. I think sometimes incentives line up where they just benefit everybody. Mm-hmm. And I think that that could be a good one. Obviously, there can be some maladies in it and some bad actors, but there are a lot of very ambitious, hungry scientists that want to get to the bottom of things, and there are a lot of people that wanna get to the bottom of things. But- don't have, like, the scientific background or studies or- Mm double-blind knowledge to run it, so then they just fund it. Yeah. I think that's awesome. That is awesome. Yeah. What would be a study that you would run right now, if you could? One thing I've always been interested in is in how creatine affects your blood sugar. I haven't found any good studies- Mm-hmm on that. I would be interested into, like- Bingo ... 'cause if your, if your muscles are more saturated, in theory, like, they should be, they sh- if they're ready to get activated- More ... faster- Less ... they should take in more sugar ... blood sugar. More sugar? Yeah. Interesting. Which would decrease your, like- Blood sugar floating blood sugar. Yeah. Interesting. I can totally see that. Yeah. 'Cause don't they fill up your ATP sacks so that you have more energy, thus you can exert more? Like, they don't technically make- Yeah ... you stronger, but they make you fatigue at a slower rate because you just have more energy stored up in, like, your energy sacks. Hmm. Yeah, that sounds right. I have no idea. I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Mm-hmm. 'Cause ATP is, like, your energy. Yeah. And so there's, like, these little sacks in your muscle, and then they almost, like, never fully fill up. And so when you take creatine, they start to fully fill up. Hmm. And so then instead of doing three reps and getting fatigued, you can do five reps. Interesting. And so that's why creatine's often used in weightlifting because it's not so much that it, like, makes you- So those- ... get bigger quicker, it just makes it so that you work harder, then you get bigger. So what's in those sacks is the energy? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so when they're full, you have more energy that you can exert. Yeah. Gotcha. Interesting. In theory. In theory. What's in ATP again? I think ATP is, like, its own thing. It's, like, this little energy molecule. Oh, really? I actually don't know, though. Is it cell- No, it's not cells. It's in the cell. I'm sure it's something... Yeah. The ATP process is in the cell. Yeah. I don't know. 'Cause sugar gets into the cell, and then the cell uses the sugar as energy. Yeah. And that's where insulin- I don't know if that's- ... is what coats the cell, that acts as, like, a key to let sugar into the cell. This should be something that we dive into. Yeah, ' cause that's what's so weird about diabetes, t- is, like, type 1 at least, and type 2, is, one, type 1, your pancreas doesn't produce insulin-coated beta cells, and so sugar can't get absorbed into your cells, and so it just floats in your bloodstream. Hmm. And with type 2, basically your pancreas can't keep up, keep up with how much sugar- Yeah ... is in your bloodstream. Insulin resistance. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. And so that, yeah, I, I remember always getting lost at that moment in chemistry where they're like, "Okay, here's a cell. Here's all the little stuff in the cell. Here's each of these functions. And now the ATP pro-..." I'm like, "What?" Yeah. "What are you talking about?" Like- I just remember- ... zoom in a little bit less and tell me what is happening there Yeah, like the Krebs cycle and stuff. Yeah. I'm like, like probably sh- probably something I should know. Yeah. Maybe something I'm gonna make a little note of to explore, and maybe, that'll be my accountability of the week. Yeah. Learn about the Krebs cycle and ATP. Yeah. Writing that down. Yeah, dude. Kind of going back on our previous conversation from earlier at dinner, and just to catch the listener up to speed because I know our future selves aren't gonna remember what we were talking about at dinner- Yeah in 20 years whenever we listen to this. We were at Rialto Carrera. Fantastic. And we were talking about how technology is advancing at such a fast rate that humans can't even keep up with that rate of acceleration anymore and understand what's happening anymore. Like, the general population... And I... Kind of the comparison I made was to Einstein in his day. It took him a while for his discoveries to proliferate, but as far as I know, and I don't know, I didn't live in that time period, pretty much everyone on earth knew who Einstein was and E=MC squared. Yeah. But did everybody know, like, the six researchers below him? Yeah, no. You know? No. But how many people know- But I think there's always a top dog. Yeah. But how many people know Demis Hassabis now? Yeah, true. And AlphaFold, who he also got a Nobel Prize for that, and I would argue that that discovery that they made is equal, is almost equal to- Yeah ... Einstein. I think that there has been a shift, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the large attributors to this is social media. But I think there's been a shift in if you're a better storyteller now, you get more fame for it. Fascinating. Rather than like- If you deserve it ... if, yeah. Rather than- Yeah ... 'cause you, you- Which we kind of were talking about too ... you look at the storytellers, and it's like, yeah. And they're real characters, dude. Yeah, they're crazy. Yeah. They're not people you wanna- Like, the stories- Yeah ... they're telling are garbage. Yeah. Yeah, which is interesting, and I feel like, I don't know. What would you wanna be famous for if you could be famous for one thing? I wouldn't wanna be famous. I would want to be- You have to be famous for one thing. I would want to be so competent in a field that I care about that it's kind of an, uh- Small town famous or niche- Yeah ... realm famous. It's like by association in conjunction to whatever I did with my life. Yeah. People are like, "Damn, that guy knows his stuff," you know? Yeah. Something like that. Like, in a small circle of, you know, construction, heavy civil or whatever. Yeah. Like, we have a really tight circle, but I mean, it's appealing, too. Like- It would be fun to go on the Joe Rogan podcast and bullshit with Joe or- Yeah ... or like go kick it with Chris Williamson or like go see what Elon's up to or- I feel like it's fun because they have clout, but also like you can get to those conversations with just- Yeah other people too. Yeah. You know? Dude, I'm reading this book right now by Nassim Taleb. It's called Antifragile, and it is super interesting. It's basically... I'll give you... I wanna tell you about a story about wealth and people that acquire it, and kind of the circles that they end up in, and how a lot of the time... I'll just- I'll start there, but I wanna tell you what antifragile means too. But he has this section where he talks about, people that acquire wealth suddenly just socialize with themselves. So like people in big houses only socialize with people in big houses. Yes. And like that might be the last thing you want is to go hear about some marble renovation in some person's house, but that's what you do. Yeah. And why? Like, that doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah. Like, it's such a weird paradigm. It is such a weird paradigm. Can I piggyback on it for a sec? Please. Please. I have always thought this with like why do the rich bring everything into their house? They have an at home gym. You lose your gym community. They have an at home sauna. You lose your sauna, cold bath commu- community. Yeah. You have an at home like movie theater. Now you just don't go to the theaters. Movies, yeah. You literally just isolate yourself one step at a time- Yeah ... in this vanity of, "Oh, I could have that at home and I could do it whenever." But then you also just... You can do- Mm ... anything pretty much whenever already. Yeah. Like, there's places for it. Yeah. Interesting. I wonder if there's a weird anxiety disorder with super mega wealthy people where they basically... It's the whole circle of co- circle- circle of comfortability gets shrunk over and over. Yeah. Maybe I could see that happening for like the spouses of the, of the billionaires, of like, "Everything's here. I never have to leave." Yeah. "I never have to see anyone." But I don't know, maybe not. I, I just- Kind of a dumb idea ... I, I can totally understand the appeal. Like, I would love to have a sauna and ice bath- Yeah at my place and- Yeah ... whatever. Oh, dude, if I had a sauna, I would do it way more. That's why I would get it. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel- Movie theater, basketball court. Like, all these things seem- Pool ... I can totally argue why I'd want- Yeah ... every single one of them. But then at the same time, now you're not going and playing pickup with strangers. Now you're not- Yeah ... interacting with the weird old lady that works at the movie theater. Now you're, you're missing out on- Mm ... so many touch points of what makes a community a community. Right. And I think that that... 'Cause- It's a long-standing trope that the rich are really paranoid. Mm-hmm. And I think it's 'cause they aren't interacting with people. Interesting. Well, and the whole, the whole blue zones in the world, it comes down to, like, how engaged are you with your community? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, community over correlational studies, it does the absolute most for longevity. Hmm. If you have a good community, you live 10 years longer than those who don't. Hmm. It's like no supplement, no health, no anything gives you a 10-year, a full decade longer to live. Wow. Like, there's nothing. Community is by, by and large the most important thing. Wow. That's amazing. In the research. I'm sure there will be something along the line that says, like... I'm sure, I bet it's, like, community and exercise. And wine. And wine. Yeah, for sure exercise. Yeah, I totally agree with that. Yeah, to close the loop on Antifragile, it's... He, he starts the book by kind of explaining, and it's, it's almost a semantic argument, that he has thought a lot about, of what does antifragile mean. What does antifragile mean to you? Antifragile means just kind of you don't take anything personally, you can kinda brush things off, you're willing to just get it done. You work- Yes ... hard. You have a thick skin. You can, no matter what is, like, said or done to you, you can keep going. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I, I think you, yeah, you totally nailed it. And he compares the word antifragile, like, people often associate antifragile with resilience or, what's the other word for it? Like, indestructibility, kind of. What's, uh... Robust. Hmm. So, like, it's either robust and resilient. That's kind of how people describe it, and he, he pushes back on that hard by saying if something's robust, it's really strong, it's really resilient. Like a package, if a package is robust, it means it's less likely to get damaged, but it's still get damaged. You know? Hmm. Same thing with resilience. Where antifragile is different is you get stronger from damage. Hmm. Like, the hard stuff in your life makes you stronger. Ah. That's where, like, antifragile comes from, and he... Basically, in the book, he's like, "You have to do hard stuff to get stronger." Yeah. That's- And obviously, like, don't kill yourself. Like, you can- Yeah ... overdo it, but put yourself through the wringer, dude. Yeah. And where are you using that mentality in your life the most right now? Dude, I think there's been a lot of anxiety around, like, hosting meetings and talking to huge clients that r- are running billion-dollar companies, and I'm meeting with the president, I'm running a meeting. Like, that's terrifying to me. But I'm just like, "He's just a guy." Yeah. You know? This is gonna ma- this is gonna make me so much better learning how to talk to these people- Yeah ... and interact with people operating at this high of a level, like, I'm just gonna do it. Yeah. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna put my head down, do the best I can, learn as much as I can, and, like, hopefully grow and improve from it. Yeah. I feel like there's a lesson in almost every, like, old movie that has, like, a against all odds friendship, and it is the realization of, like, this is just a person. I'm just gonna treat him like a person. Like, I think of The Sound of Music- Mm ... and, like, Intouchables, the upside, the American version. Yeah. Like, all of these, it's like they picked the person that just treated them like an actual person instead of putting them on this pedestal of like, this guy's really wealthy. Right. Right. This guy runs a company. This guy does all this. 'Cause at the end of the day, it's like, yeah, you pretty much five... Like, I, I don't even know if I'd quantify it as five, but, like, there are things that just make you likable to another human. Mm-hmm. Like, almost always. Was that a whistle? It's okay, bud. It's okay, buddy. But yeah. Yeah. I think- That's interesting. Dude, the thing that's funny about these is I feel like when we don't have an agenda, the conversation's way better. Yeah. So maybe we don't, like... Oh, hey. Yeah. Maybe we don't build in an agenda. Maybe there's some stuff that we can, like, follow up on. I like content diet at the end. Like, I, I like con- I like con- maybe we should be brutally, like, harsh about what we don't want in it. Like, the goals, the weekly stuff, I don't know if I like that. Yeah. I do like the content diet though, so- I like the content diet ... worry about it. The content diet is great. I f- and I think that goes into what we were saying before we turned the camera on of like i- what sticky sticks. Yes. You know? Yeah. You remember what you remember, and I d- I think there is so much... Like last week, Ella Langley, that's who you're listening to. Yeah. That was your content diet. Yeah. See? Or maybe that was two weeks ago, but still. Yeah. Even better. Yeah. No. I, I think that there's s- what? There's 8.2 billion or however many people on the planet right now. Yeah. And you're gonna tell me that there's, like, six ways to do it. Yeah. It's like, no. Yeah. There's eight billion ways- Yeah ... to do it. Like... And the fact that we're showing up and doing it, I think is great. Yeah. I think that's the hard part. That's the hard part. That's the structure. And for the most part, it's like I want this to be something that- my kids can look back on- Yeah and actually want to listen to. Like, "Damn, these guys were locked in on some-" Yeah "... stuff that we don't care about." They're like, "Damn, this is so boring." "I don't wanna hear this." Why is- "Damn, why is Hayden talking about his formula again?" "God, shut up." Yeah, seriously, though. No. But- Why is Mason quizzing Hayden on his formula? Yeah. Why is Mason asking Hayden how many tablets to the exact number of tablet he made this week? 21,817. No... What? Yep. That's how many my, machine has measured. This week? No, no, no. Oh Just in total. I'm like, geez, man, 21,000? How many tablets of those do you have on you? Not, not that many. Yeah. So- You've probably gotten out into the world, like, 15,000 tablets at least. Yeah, probably. Probably about that. Wow. That's amazing. Good stuff. You've been pushing product, dude. Yeah. Been giving it away more so. Hey. But that's part of it. If you look at any successful drink company or company- Yeah ... it's interesting, 'cause I'm at, like, the drink company meets supplements. I feel like supplement companies don't really give away supplements, but drink companies give away drinks. Mm. And so I'm kind of trying to toe the line of, like, do I give this out as, like, a sample, or do I not? But- Yeah ... I'll probably give it out as a sample, to be honest. Dude, I wonder, like, once you get little things like stickers and stuff dialed in, I wonder if getting on Amazon would, like, explode your business. Amazon is really hard to get onto, because you have to be GMP certified. Mm. So I can't get GMP certified until I move into a facility and go through, like, the $50,000 fee to get your whole facility, con- like, get a consultant, have your consultant build out, 'cause you have to have a written process for every single step- Damn of your process. I mean, AI could help you with that now. Yeah, totally. But even still, like- 50 grand? That's a- It, it... Yeah, it's brutal ... geez. The actual certification's like... It's like an audit. You're pretty much getting audited. That's so lame. And so- But also good incentive to, like, figure out how to make it work now. Exactly, and I think if I can make it work before GMP certification, it's kinda like, hell yeah. Yeah, let's go. Which has been something, 'cause I am... Right now, getting customers is the hardest, because I'm selling on e-commerce. Yeah. And nobody's buying just straight from the website anymore. Right. And so if I can build up a good base of people that are willing to buy just fr- straight from the website, like the early adopters, it's like, okay, that's market validation- Yeah to a T- Yeah ... because it's the hardest to get it right now. Yeah. But if I can set up a subscription, I think more so. That's awesome. Good boy. Yeah. But anyway, back to what I was saying about, like, everybody will tell you how to do it- Do it your own way Yeah What sticky sticks Yeah If you have a real joy for something that just keeps recurring in your life, just- Yeah let it happen. I feel like I've been trying to force myself into something that I'm not, or something that isn't too much. But I, I think with that being said, there are times that you need to push- Mm-hmm ... in areas that you don't want to. Like, sometimes what's best for you isn't what you want. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And just rewiring your dopamine system too. Yeah. Like I've seen this thing recently where you stare at a wall for 15 minutes a day, and suddenly, like it makes the hardship that you didn't want to do easier to do. Yeah. Just 'cause you just wanna be doing something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have to start doing that. And even... I think all that is, is just meditate. Yeah. You know, focus on nothing for 15 minutes a day. Yeah. No, I, I need to... It's tough 'cause doing everything for Third Life- And working ... and working, but mostly just doing everything for Third Life, you have to have an online presence, especially to get people to your e-commerce site. Mm-hmm. And so I like am constantly trying to like tap in to- But I, I would push back on that actually a little. Like look at... I feel like for so many companies, it's just a byproduct of what their cool product is. Yeah. Like Nomatic, dude. Their social media presence is fine. They hire a photographer out every now and then, but like they don't care about Instagram. Yeah. But they also work with like, what is it? Peter Thulun- Yeah ... or whatever. Yeah. And he- Yeah ... reps their brand like hardcore. Yeah Which is, yeah- Or Chris Williamson ... maybe, maybe that's a test then. Yeah. Testament of like have other people do it. Yeah. And that's advertising. But for me, I enjoy- I don't have a network with anyone that's like social media, other than Aaron Witt. Yeah. Which if we get closer, I'll hook you up with Aaron. I, I have been thinking about this campaign, that I just get as many people that I know with like over 500 followers to like post a couple stories. Yeah. And I feel like if I could get everybody that I can remember from high school that I have their number- Yeah that would be crazy. Yeah. And I think that it would... I... One of them- What about this is like what... This... We're just spitballing here. Um, what about this as just a crazy idea, micro, micro influencers, where you literally will pay someone like, "I'll pay you a dollar- Yeah ... if you post this on your Instagram feed today." Yeah. I bet a lot of people would be like, "Yeah, totally." Yeah. 10 bucks, let's go. Here's 10 bucks- Yeah ... and a tube of Third Life- Yeah ... if you take this and post a story about it. Um- Well, I think that's our recording for today. Did we set the timer? We still got nine minutes. Okay. We're still recording. Do you have your phone on you? Yeah. We have five minutes left. Will you text Emma and just say, "Five more minutes left on the episode"? Yes. I can't believe that was last week that you told me that stuff, and I don't wanna bring it up in this episode, but holy cow- Yeah ... it's crazy it's only been a week. It's crazy. I haven't even really had time to think about it this week, dude. It's insane. It's good, though. I'm glad that we got past, like, the first week of nobody screwing it up, 'cause now I feel like, "Ah, that's what it is." You know? Yeah, no, I don't think it's gonna happen. Like, it's not top of my mind anymore, you know? Yeah. Pops in there every now and then, but... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Well, I feel like this was a good episode. Um- It's a good episode ... what has been your content diet, then? My content diet has been a lot of markets. Um, honestly- Did you already say that, markets? No, I feel like I say that every week. Yeah. That's, like, my favorite podcast. I didn't ask you this episode, though. Mm-mm. Mm-hmm. Um- Maybe I'm just getting amnesia or something from you saying it every week- Yeah, probably ... or like deja vu. Deja vu. Just markets, you know- Yeah ... Ed Ellison. Um- Prof G. Markets ... I love them. I listened to a couple How I Built This this y- week, which was good. Um, one of the lessons that I've- How I Built This, which, what, what did- With Guy Raz what are you learning about getting built? Oh my gosh, what was it? Dude, that's another weird thing. We're in this time of just massive consumption- So much ... where I can't decide if any free moment I have I should be listening to something or should be reflecting on what I've listened to. Yeah. And I don't know that reflecting does any good. I disagree. Like, r- I think reflection does a lot of good, but I don't know that, like, when I'm going to the grocery store, like, I'm gonna be thinking about what I just learned. Yeah. And then I'm like, "Well, I might as well listen to something then." Yeah. You know? Yeah. I think there is a good practice in... A lot of my favorite ideas that I come up with come from just, like, I have nothing playing and I'm on a drive. Mm-hmm. And I'll call Jade, I'll be like, "I think this is pretty funny." Yeah. 'Cause I feel like you just start to interpret the world, and granted, sometimes that stimulus is from what you're listening to, but- Yeah ... I feel like you just kind of interpret the world in a different way. You're more focused on it when you're not listening to something that, like, puts you in your head. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know though. I kind of fall between- Yeah, 'cause I don't know if you wanna be in your head and, like, reflecting on the past or if you wanna just be, like, in the moment- Yeah ... and think of the future. I don't know. I don't know either. So lots of Prop G, huh? And here's the thing, it could be for somebody, but maybe not for- Yeah somebody else. Yeah. There's no one way to do it. That is interesting how different people, like highly functional people like Elon or Marc Andreessen, they're like, "I only live right now and, like, think about the future." Yeah. There are no looking back. Like, obviously the fact that he's reflected, the fact that he knows that about himself is like, okay, then you're reflecting on it. You've reflected at some point, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of ironic. At that point it's kinda just a sound bite. Right. But I bet he is just locked in, like he's just go, go, go, go, go. Yeah. Push, push, push all day. But also as, like, a hedge fund manager it's like, "Okay, I remember the tell signs of 2008." Mm. Like, "I remember this, so I have to account for that." You know? 'Cause he runs, like, one of the largest venture capital firms. Yeah. So he has to reflect on some of his blunders. True. Because otherwise he'd just keep investing. Unless he hasn't had any blunders. Yeah. He's got to. I'm just... He's definitely- Yeah ... he's definitely made mistakes. And you learn from those mistakes, but I don't think you dwell on them. I don't think you dwell on them. Yeah. I think that might be a lolli effect. But I definitely think you have to be like, like for instance, you know not to leave the door open anymore. Yeah. Probably because Nimbus got out or something at some point. Nimbus. Or something... You'll, like, sometimes it's innate. Sometimes it doesn't take, like, conscious reflection, but you still, there's a part of you that still reflects. Yeah. Yeah. It's like implicit memory. But yeah- True ... my content diet was that. What was your content diet? A little bit of planning there too. The Seem To Leb. Um, we have a book club at work, so I'm gonna restart How To Win Friends And Influence People. Uh, music, a little bit here and there. How To Win Friends And Influence People was what we talked about on our very first ever- Really? ... ever Verr Pod. Really? Yeah. At your old house. Hell yeah. With the, on the stool in front of your garage with the pool table. Nice. That's an excellent memory. That was after my, after or before my head injury? I think it was right after. Yeah. I think that was what initiated this whole- Really? ... project. Interesting. Was you were like, "I wanna build back-" Yeah. Memory ... memory really well." And I'm still forgetting what we did last week. You probably were before, but I can't remember. I know. I know. Okay, dude. Good stuff. We got it done. Nice. Good gig. Love y'all. Thanks for tuning in this week.